{"id":3658,"date":"2007-10-15T14:10:43","date_gmt":"2007-10-15T13:10:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/?p=3658"},"modified":"2025-01-12T21:12:38","modified_gmt":"2025-01-12T20:12:38","slug":"2017-part-10-test-of-new-levelling-heljan-b-cars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/?p=3658","title":{"rendered":"2017 part 10 &#8211; Test of new Levelling + Heljan B cars"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">October 31<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I have been staring underneath the cars trying to figure out how to exchange&nbsp;the&nbsp;coupling kinematic. I cannot see that. At sporskiftet.dk, I have founda verbal explanation about how easy it should be to take a car apart in order to install interior light. Something with pulling the sides apart and just let the chassis drop out. And then loosen 5-6 screws, which should give access to the bottom. And I wonder if access to the&nbsp;coupling kinematic should not be achieved as well by doing so?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the meantime, I will be trying out&nbsp;Fleishmann profi couplings. I have purchased enough for one train, i.e. locomotive and three cars. See this good explanation about different couplings (in German): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stayathome.ch\/kupplungen.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.stayathome.ch\/kupplungen.htm<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the moment the train does not derail. But the cars decouple. And after after having inspected them, I have probably turned them back and forth or interchanged them. Before, the back car decoupled. Now, it is the front car that decouples from the locomotive. So maybe it is just one of the standard couplings that is a bit skew?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next step is&nbsp;Fleishmann profi couplings between locomotive and front car end between the first two cars, but still standard couplings between second and last car. At least it looks more natural with the shorter distance between cars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With&nbsp;profi couplings:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1312\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/28A9C87B-FD4C-4357-A898-5C849364DE58-1024x768.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With standard&nbsp;couplings:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1311\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/76391286-59E7-407A-8C85-126E034FC3F1-1024x768.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But that must make it impossible for the cars to pass narrow curves without pushing each other from the track? No. See the link above with an explanation about how coupling cinematic works. In fact it seems that cars with standard couplings keep shorter distance than those with profi couplings. Maybe because the standard couplings do not force the coupling cinematic in the position where it increases the distance?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is everything then as it should be? No. The cars do not derail. And they keep a safe distance even in narrow curves. But even the profi couplings decouple. I think somehow there is too much difference in height of the cars. Maybe the coupling cinematic moves up or down so that difference in height occur between cars? Maybe because the coupling cinematic is not rigid enough? An attribute of profi couplings is that theycan be decoupled just by lifting a car vertically up and out of the train. Nothing is holding profi coupling together in the vertical direction. They are only locked tightly together horisontally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have made these photos of the coupling at a place where I have observed decouplings. Even though the pictures are somewhat black in black, a certain difference in height may be observed:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1315\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF3F3B7-60A5-4511-80EC-AB1A06782F1E-1024x768.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1314\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/EB91B75E-B3C4-48EE-BD2F-3C1154E9940E-1024x768.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/F738DF03-ADD8-4891-9055-B77E3D42D3F9-e1509475161487.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1313\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/F738DF03-ADD8-4891-9055-B77E3D42D3F9-e1509475161487-225x300.jpeg\" alt=\"F738DF03-ADD8-4891-9055-B77E3D42D3F9\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/F738DF03-ADD8-4891-9055-B77E3D42D3F9-e1509475161487-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/F738DF03-ADD8-4891-9055-B77E3D42D3F9-e1509475161487-768x1024.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/>T<\/a>he strange thing is that decouplings occur at the middle of a slope and not where flat track becomes sloping track, where I would think the cars would have an angle horizontally. But it more or less fits with the place where the locomotive starts to pull the hardest to pull all three cars up the slope and through a narrow curve. And maybe that makes the coupling cinematic bend a little?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the problem is due to non-rigid coupling cinematics, some new ones ought to fix the problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or I might have to get a few drawbars. I would rather avoid that, since it would make it hard to get a train on and off the track. I may have to tilt the train one one side and use tweezers to take them apart, when taking the train off the track. And something similar when putting them on the track. Since my train is maximum a locomotive and three long cars, it may be doable without breaking all the drawbars. But it will not be easy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lockdoc have these very fine drawbars from Brawa available for 5 kroner a piece (bag of ten). I.e. a quarter of the price for profi couplings. However, I am not sure they look like anything from passenger cars. And the look quite fragile too:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/17B26100-15F7-4609-8DFE-ABD94942CBA8.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1326\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/17B26100-15F7-4609-8DFE-ABD94942CBA8.jpeg\" alt=\"17B26100-15F7-4609-8DFE-ABD94942CBA8\" width=\"240\" height=\"138\">O<\/a>r maybe they look exactly as they should &#8211; for passenger cars as well:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CF2D373D-E033-4E0A-86FB-BC855CCC3992.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1325 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CF2D373D-E033-4E0A-86FB-BC855CCC3992.jpeg\" alt=\"CF2D373D-E033-4E0A-86FB-BC855CCC3992\" width=\"291\" height=\"228\"><\/a>Alternatively these from Symoba &#8211; at&nbsp;19 kr a piece:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1321\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8FCBBDDE-829A-42BA-BE56-42441F678488.jpeg 610w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>F<\/a>inally there is this more solid looking drawbar from the company Ribu with the number&nbsp;85505, that I have seen for&nbsp;2 Euro for four. I have not been able to find them in a Danish shop:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8F8FAE73-AEFE-4BD1-BF12-B1A8A340CF71.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1323 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/8F8FAE73-AEFE-4BD1-BF12-B1A8A340CF71.jpeg\" alt=\"8F8FAE73-AEFE-4BD1-BF12-B1A8A340CF71\" width=\"200\" height=\"96\"><\/a>M\u00e4rklin produces a drawbar that can transfer current. However they only seem to be usable in M\u00e4rklin cars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It must be possible (but very hard) to wind a thin wire around any kind of drawbar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Until further, I am waiting for my dealer to deliver new coupling cinematic for the cars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">November 1<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The explanation to the decoupling cars can be that the transition between 0% and 5% slope (as described October 17) corresponds to a difference in height of 9 mm from one end of a piece of track to the other, while the track piece behind is flat. That gives an angle corresponding to a heigt difference of 2 mm of the couplings on the two cars on each of the two track sections.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The 2 mm comes from this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En Bn vogn er 24,5m lang. I model bliver det 29,3cm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Afstanden mellem bogie tapperne er 17,2m svarende til 19,8cm i modelst\u00f8rrelse, eller ca. en skinnel\u00e6ngde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dvs., at det, der h\u00e6nger ud over tappen i hver ende af vognen, er (29,3 &#8211; 19,8) \/ 2 = 4,75cm, hvilket svarer til 100% * 4,75\/19,8 = 24%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Og 24% af 9mm (h\u00f8jdeforskellen mellem vognenderne) er lidt over 2mm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En profikobling er ca. 3,2mm h\u00f8j, s\u00e5 der skal ikke v\u00e6re meget galt med h\u00e6ldningerne p\u00e5 sporet, eller koblingskulisserne skal ikke give sig ret meget, f\u00f8r vognene kobler af.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00e5 jeg m\u00e5 p\u00e5 den igen og pr\u00f8ve at g\u00f8re overgangene mellem forskellige h\u00e6ldninger mildere samt f\u00e5 de 5% h\u00e6ldning ned p\u00e5 4%. Jeg er ude i marginalerne, s\u00e5 selv sm\u00e5 forbedringer t\u00e6ller.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Se igen sporplanen:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1282\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted-169x300.jpg\" alt=\"Koter_R2_unadjusted\" width=\"169\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted-169x300.jpg 169w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted-768x1367.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted-575x1024.jpg 575w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Koter_R2_unadjusted.jpg 780w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px\" \/><\/a>Forreste vogn (dvs. alle vogne) kobler fra lokomotivet, n\u00e5r toget k\u00f8rer ind i inderkurven fra toppen af billedet og bagenden af lokomotivet er n\u00e5et ca. halvanden skinnestykke ind p\u00e5 billedet. Jeg er noget forundret over, at det er lige der. M\u00e5ske er der en bule p\u00e5 skinnerne? I hvert fald ser det ud til, at den allerf\u00f8rste skinne-ende p\u00e5 billedet skal skrues fast. Den sv\u00e6ver lidt over trac\u00e9en.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men det er langt fra gjort med det. Jeg vendte toget og k\u00f8rte modsat vej rundt p\u00e5 banen. Og ikke uventet er der op til flere andre steder, hvor vognene afkobler, n\u00e5r jeg k\u00f8rer den vej.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Og v\u00e6rre endnu, s\u00e5 begyndte lokomotivet at lyde rigtig grimt et bestemt sted. Som om det er afsporet. Men det er ikke afsporet. N\u00e6ste tanke var om gearkassen er g\u00e5et i smadder. Men dels er lokomotivet kun to m\u00e5neder gammelt, dels er det kun det ene sted p\u00e5 banen og dels k\u00f8rer lokomotivet, s\u00e5 det kan vel dermed ikke v\u00e6re tandhjulene, der sidder p\u00e5 tv\u00e6rs? Jeg kan ikke umiddelbart hitte ud af, hvad der foreg\u00e5r. Det er ikke i et sporskifte, men i en R2 bue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg tror jeg m\u00e5 g\u00e5 tilbage til Lima B vogne og se, hvordan de k\u00f8rer. Der er i hvert fald ikke fejl p\u00e5 kortkoblingskulisser. For s\u00e5dan nogen er Lima vognene ikke udstyret med.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">4. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>For at f\u00e5 bl\u00f8de overgange, alts\u00e5 undg\u00e5 &#8220;kn\u00e6k&#8221; p\u00e5 skinnerne har jeg tilf\u00f8jet yderligere en 3 mm tr\u00e6fiberplade til netop de tre opklodsninger, der er markeret med en r\u00f8d streg her:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1336\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning-300x229.jpg\" alt=\"Ekstra_opklodsning\" width=\"300\" height=\"229\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning-300x229.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning-768x587.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning-1024x783.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Ekstra_opklodsning.jpg 1587w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Hvorfor det lige var der? Tjaeh &#8211; resultatet af pr\u00f8vek\u00f8rslerne viste, at afkoblinger skete der, s\u00e5 nu m\u00e5 vi se, hvad der nu sker. Der er sikkert tale om un\u00f8jagtigheder, selvom jeg troede, at mine laserm\u00e5linger var 100% pr\u00e6cise. Men det er s\u00e5 t\u00e6t p\u00e5, at de lange vogne kan k\u00f8re, s\u00e5 jeg tror, at med disse f\u00e5 mm justering &#8211; og m\u00e5ske flere af samme slags, s\u00e5 skal det hele nok lykkes. Forel\u00f8big k\u00f8rer det uden hverken afsporinger eller afkoblinger. Og b\u00e5de med Lima vogne og Bn vognene. Sidstn\u00e6vnte endda med Fleishmann profi kortkoblinger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I mellemtiden har jeg smadret et lokomotiv, som jeg fik til at styrte &#8220;i dybet&#8221;, dvs. ned p\u00e5 gulvet. Herved hoppede den bagerste bogie af og en puffer blev b\u00f8jet s\u00e5 meget, s\u00e5 man ikke kan bruge koblingen foran. Det sidste er det v\u00e6rste. For jeg har f\u00e5et bogien sat p\u00e5 igen. Men jeg t\u00f8r ikke at fors\u00f8ge at b\u00f8je pufferen&nbsp;p\u00e5 plads. S\u00e5 kn\u00e6kker det bare. Den m\u00e5 vist en tur p\u00e5 autoriseret v\u00e6rksted:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1339\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB-300x147.jpeg\" alt=\"1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB\" width=\"300\" height=\"147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB-300x147.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB-768x375.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB-1024x500.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/1DC3FB94-8F6E-4065-AEA8-1C1E09295FFB.jpeg 1312w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Det f\u00e5r mig til at afbryde al k\u00f8rsel med dyrt materiel indtil jeg har f\u00e5et lavet et &#8220;sikkerhedsnet&#8221; af nogle gamle gardiner, vi har liggende.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">5. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00e5 er der sikkerhedsnet under banen:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/E1DF5678-935F-4977-A62C-4F6D737BE95D-e1509899900134.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1341\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/E1DF5678-935F-4977-A62C-4F6D737BE95D-e1509899900134-225x300.jpeg\" alt=\"E1DF5678-935F-4977-A62C-4F6D737BE95D\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/E1DF5678-935F-4977-A62C-4F6D737BE95D-e1509899900134-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/E1DF5678-935F-4977-A62C-4F6D737BE95D-e1509899900134-768x1024.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a>Jeg lavede en ramme af 45 x 25 mm klemlister, som manden i Bauhaus instruede mig i er den rette betegnelse fremfor \u201cl\u00e6gte\u201d. P\u00e5 denne ramme har jeg sat et stykke insektnet fast med h\u00e6fteklammer. Insektnettet kostede 59,95 i Bauhaus. Og det er meget nemmere at arbejde med end de gamle gardiner, der ellers var udset til form\u00e5let.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu er der dermed klar til yderligere pr\u00f8vek\u00f8rsler. Det bliver dog ikke i dag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">6. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg fandt et sted, hvor skinnerne ikke sad ordentligt. De sv\u00e6vede flere milimeter og endnu v\u00e6rre: De var meget nemme at vippe fra side til side. Og jeg har da ogs\u00e5 set en del afsporinger lige der. Det drejer sig om enderne af flex skinnerne lige der hvor de krydser ind under overetagen i begge sider af layoutet. Jeg har mokket nogen skruer og sp\u00e6ndeskiver p\u00e5, s\u00e5 de hverken sv\u00e6ver eller vipper:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1344\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/CDF7E6BC-33BA-4646-8AED-61A5F78EC2AF.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Det var ikke supernemt at komme til. Men med en kort skrutr\u00e6kker og en solid opklodsning af overetagen kunne det lade sig g\u00f8re:<a href=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1345\" src=\"http:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/lisby.dk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/D83E13B9-6247-4DA1-B638-E7B4A85C020D.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Nu ser det ud til, at alle afsporings- og afkoblingsproblemer er v\u00e6k, s\u00e5 l\u00e6nge togene k\u00f8rer forl\u00e6ns i den rigtige retning med moderat fart.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men der udest\u00e5r stadigv\u00e6k en masse pr\u00f8vek\u00f8rsler i alle 4 retninger, dvs. toget k\u00f8rende forl\u00e6ns med uret, bagl\u00e6ns med uret, forl\u00e6ns mod uret og bagl\u00e6ns mod uret. Og det skal testes b\u00e5de med lav, moderat og h\u00f8j hastighed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">11. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg har justeret adskillige steder p\u00e5 banen. Visse steder har jeg lagt en ekstra 3 mm fiberplade i en opklodsning. Andre steder har jeg kun skullet addere et ekstra lag parketgulvsunderlag (ca. 1 mm). Og s\u00e5 var der ogs\u00e5 lige et sporskifte, der m\u00e5tte b\u00f8jes forsigtigt med en tang. Det kan sikkert ikke anbefales generelt. Men i dette tilf\u00e6lde virkede det. Endelig har jeg regnet p\u00e5 og opklodset det kryds, der er p\u00e5 tv\u00e6rs mellem min forreste og bagerste skyggebaneg\u00e5rd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Resultatet er, at nu kan mine Bn vogne k\u00f8re i alle 4 retninger med middel fart uden hverken afsporinger eller afkoblinger. Jeg har endnu ikke vovet at gasse helt op. Men der er nu ogs\u00e5 meget st\u00e6rke gr\u00e6nser for, hvor hurtigt togene skal k\u00f8re p\u00e5 min lille bane. Det virker absolut ikke naturligt at k\u00f8re s\u00e6rlig hurtigt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men man skal jo ikke n\u00f8jes med at k\u00f8re med et enkelt tog. S\u00e5 jeg har ogs\u00e5 pr\u00f8vet med nogle godsvogne. Det g\u00e5r n\u00e6sten godt. Men der er en enkelt (Hobbytrade) vogn, der afsporer i halvdelen af sporskifterne. Den m\u00e5 nok have hj\u00e6lp i form af at justere hjulafstand og\/eller en opvejning jvf. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tlarsen.dk\/Banen\/opvejning-af-vogne\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tlarsen.dk<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Endelig er der Lima B vognene. De k\u00f8rer fint fremad. Og jeg kan s\u00e5m\u00e6nd ogs\u00e5 godt bakke med dem. Men indimellem flipper de ud og afsporer. S\u00e5dan er det nok bare, med mindre jeg forsyner dem med Symoba kortkoblingskulisser og muligvis bygger dem endnu mere om. Men det g\u00f8r jeg ikke. S\u00e5 vil jeg hellere ofre endnu flere penge p\u00e5 nogle f\u00e5 nye og p\u00e6nere vogne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">15. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Godsvognen endte med at f\u00e5 nye AC hjul. Men s\u00e5 k\u00f8rer den ogs\u00e5 perfekt.&nbsp;Dermed er jeg rimelig sikker p\u00e5, at banen fungerer. Og s\u00e5 skal jeg have valgt mit n\u00e6ste skridt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>a. F\u00e5 str\u00f8mf\u00f8lerne og dermed computerstyringen til at fungere igen?<br>\nb. Bygge et paradespor foran p\u00e5 layoutet?<br>\nc. Bygge Skive Vestsalling Jernbane og dermed endnu en halv etage opad?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg har ikke f\u00e5et ret mange af dimserne hjem fra Kina endnu. De er faktisk f\u00f8rst lige begyndt at drysse ind i postlkassen efter nu 40 dage. S\u00e5 str\u00f8mf\u00f8lerne f\u00e5r lov at vente lidt endnu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mht. resten af banen, s\u00e5 var det jo planen, at det skulle bygges som aftagelige moduler. Men jeg har f\u00e5et lidt \u201csecond thoughts\u201d:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dels er der besv\u00e6rlighederne med at f\u00e5 de oversavede skinner til at passe 100% sammen, og dels er der overvejelserne om at f\u00e5 de enkelte moduler gjort solide nok, uden at de kommer til at fylde for meget.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Og dels er der selve form\u00e5let med at lave aftagelige moduler:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For paradesporets vedkommende skulle form\u00e5let v\u00e6re, at der kan kappes 10 cm af bredden p\u00e5 banen, hvis v\u00e6relset skal bruges som g\u00e6stev\u00e6relse. Men det viser sig ikke at v\u00e6re n\u00f8dvendigt. Man kan s\u00e5dan set godt sove inde under kanten af banen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For SVJ skulle form\u00e5let v\u00e6re, at man kan komme til at udf\u00f8re reparationer eller bare at s\u00e6tte afsporede tog p\u00e5 plads i skyggebaneg\u00e5rden. Men det beh\u00f8ver vel ikke n\u00f8dvendigvis betyde, at selve banen skal deles op i moduler? Det er muligvis nok, at \u00f8verste etage i n\u00f8dsfald (f.eks. hvis jeg p\u00e5 et tidspunkt skal flytte) skal kunne skrues af &#8211; lige som jeg har gjort med Skive H &#8211; samt at jeg g\u00f8r selve landskabet imellem skinnerne modulopbygget og aftageligt. Afsporinger kommer jeg under alle omst\u00e6ndigheder til at l\u00f8se ved at r\u00e6kke op nede fra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men uanset modulopbygning eller ej, s\u00e5 er f\u00f8rste skridt at f\u00e5 monteret noget 12 mm krydsfiner bag p\u00e5 og p\u00e5 siderne, s\u00e5 der er en stabil base at g\u00f8re n\u00e6ste etage fast i. S\u00e5 det kan jeg lige s\u00e5 godt komme i gang med.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">25. november<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg har ikke r\u00f8rt banen siden sidst. Undtagen i dag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men jeg har tegnet og t\u00e6nkt. Paradesporet s\u00e5vel som \u00f8verste etage bliver p\u00e5 faste plader. Kun landskabet i midten bliver aftageligt. St\u00f8rste designm\u00e6ssige udfordring lige nu er at f\u00e5 plads til en vej til min Faller bil. Det bliver vist kun til en enkeltsporet oval-agtig vej. M\u00e5ske kan jeg f\u00e5 plads til en lille sidevej \/ et vigespor, s\u00e5 jeg kan f\u00e5 et \u201csporskifte\u201d ogs\u00e5. Men mere er der ikke plads til.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I dag har jeg anskaffet to Heljan B-vogne. De har rygte for at v\u00e6re p\u00e6ne, men ogs\u00e5 for ikke at kunne k\u00f8re i R1 (og vist ikke i noget under radius 56 cm) kurver. Jeg kan bekr\u00e6fte begge dele. Og jeg kan tilf\u00f8je, at den r\u00f8de DSB designfarve har en betydeligt m\u00f8rkere og mere afd\u00e6mpet tone end den skrigr\u00f8de, som mine Mck Bn vogne har. Og som jeg husker det og ser det p\u00e5 billeder, s\u00e5 er det alts\u00e5 Mck, der \u201char ret\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Der er to ting, der forhindrer R1 k\u00f8rslen. Dvs. \u201cout of the box\u201d er vognene faktisk i stand til at k\u00f8re i R1 kurver, s\u00e5 l\u00e6nge de kun bliver trukket og ikke skubbet, og s\u00e5 l\u00e6nge de kun skal dreje til \u00e9n side. Det sagde i hvert fald mine f\u00f8rste pr\u00f8vek\u00f8rsler.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Den f\u00f8rste og st\u00f8rste hindring for R1 kurvek\u00f8rsel er den ret store generator (eller var det en kompressor?), der sad p\u00e5 den ene side af den ene bogie p\u00e5 en B-vogn. Den kolliderer med en lille tap, der ligeledes fuldst\u00e6ndig korrekt var en del af B-vognene. Det sker, n\u00e5r vognen skal dreje til den anden side i et unaturligt skarpt sving, som en R1 kurve jo un\u00e6gteligt udg\u00f8r. S\u00e5 enten m\u00e5 tappen eller generatoren v\u00e6k. Tappen skal (hvis man v\u00e6lger den l\u00f8sning) sk\u00e6res v\u00e6k. L\u00f8sdelen kan med en spids pincet hives ud af bogien uden at \u00f8del\u00e6gge hverken l\u00f8sdel eller bogie. S\u00e5 det blev min l\u00f8sning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Den anden hindring er koblingskulisserne, som ikke tillader koblingerne at svinge tilstr\u00e6kkeligt ud til siderne. Jeg oplevede det i f\u00f8rste omgang kun, n\u00e5r vognene skubbes, samtidig med at jeg anvender Fleishmann profi koblinger. Men efter at have hevet generatorerne af begge vogne kan jeg nu heller ikke f\u00e5 dem til at k\u00f8re fremad med profi koblinger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jeg skal m\u00e5ske&nbsp;fors\u00f8ge med b\u00f8jlekoblinger. Men hvis det skal fungere ordentligt, s\u00e5 bliver jeg n\u00f8dt til i det mindste at fjerne de to klodser underneden, der forhindrer koblingskulissen i at svinge ud. Desv\u00e6rre vil det dog betyde, at den lille tynde slange kommer til at sv\u00e6ve frit for neden, hvorved den meget let kan kn\u00e6kke. Se mere her:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.perfecttrains.com\/news\/konvertering-af-heljan-b-vognserie-til-r1-koersel\/\">https:\/\/www.perfecttrains.com\/news\/konvertering-af-heljan-b-vognserie-til-r1-koersel\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det er i \u00f8vrigt samtidig opskriften p\u00e5 at skille vognene ad. Den kan bruges, hvis jeg en gang vil male interi\u00f8ret og\/eller s\u00e6tte passagerer i vognene.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>October 31 I have been staring underneath the cars trying to figure out how to exchange&nbsp;the&nbsp;coupling kinematic. I cannot see that. At sporskiftet.dk, I have founda verbal explanation about how easy it should be to take a car apart in order to install interior light. 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